Wave Music Home
ReleasesCommunityYour OrderWave Music
ArtistsEventsDJ MixesShop

Wave Music Home


Home
About Us
Labels
Distributed Labels
Links




Search


Adv. Search



Subscribe


Email






Go Back   Wave Music Community Board > Tech Talk for Gearheads

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 21 votes, 4.90 average. Display Modes
  #1251  
Old 05-16-2010, 03:26 PM
c-rock172 c-rock172 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 52
BTW Leeee that is a sweet set up. Is that for tracktor? if not, then which software do you use?
Reply With Quote
  #1252  
Old 05-16-2010, 03:31 PM
c-rock172 c-rock172 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 52
@ Fred, I had a feeling that your theory may be correct about the older mixer having a better sound than the newer mixers. That is why I have chosen not to sell the Power mixer (for the moment). I also have been aware that my mixer is rare which also contributes to me keeping the mixer. However, just like most of us, I always wanted a Bozak or an Urei and that is why I am going for the UREI LE. I simply dont have $1800 or more to get a refurbished classic Bozak or Urei.
Reply With Quote
  #1253  
Old 05-16-2010, 03:39 PM
c-rock172 c-rock172 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by c-rock172
If that question is directed to me, that is not a controller, its my cd remote for my Denon DND 4000 dual tray cd mixer. I do not use any midi controllers at all. I have yet to know how to work those. I use Serato and I control it using the Time Coded Vinyl or the Time Coded CDs when using Pioneers or any cd players. I play mostly the time coded vinyl when using Serato.


My bad on that post, lol
Reply With Quote
  #1254  
Old 05-16-2010, 03:49 PM
Fred Bissnette Fred Bissnette is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: toronto ontario canada
Posts: 1,123
i mean i dont want to rain on anyones parade buy discouraging you to sell it im just saying it prolly sounds better than a new rotary mixer

if i had the extra cash id buy a bozak but i dont think i ever will now that i have my new toy and i know its sounds the balls
Reply With Quote
  #1255  
Old 05-16-2010, 04:08 PM
c-rock172 c-rock172 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 52
Lol, Don't worry Fred you didn't discourage me. I haven't thought on selling the Power mixer. I am trying to decide which mixer will be my home mixer and which mixer will be my road mixer.
Reply With Quote
  #1256  
Old 05-16-2010, 05:13 PM
vinyl_junkie vinyl_junkie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South East Kent, UK
Posts: 1,828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Bissnette
as older mixers seem to be built better than newer ones
peas

Not entirely true, the LE has much better build quality than the original Urei in so many respects (Construction, quality of PCB's, PSU design etc) perhaps minus the mix pots as some people say the older BlackBeauty pot was better made compared to the Blue Velvet but this pot could not be used for the LE as it's no longer in production.
This of course has nothing to do with the way it sounds though..the original 1620 for most is still the best sounding Urei but tweak the LE enough and you can make it sound sweet.

On a final note the LE has gone back up in price to 1k if some one wants new
__________________
--The future scares me, any chance of a lift back to the past any one?--

Last edited by vinyl_junkie : 05-16-2010 at 05:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #1257  
Old 05-17-2010, 01:13 AM
Leeee Leeee is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 212
Yes i have them set up for Traktor. I'm loving them right now they are so responsive and have a great sound (they have a burr brown DAC's and a soundcard in each one)

Reply With Quote
  #1258  
Old 05-17-2010, 04:00 AM
bossa nolyx bossa nolyx is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 211
On a Party last Friday...




Reply With Quote
  #1259  
Old 05-18-2010, 11:35 PM
c-rock172 c-rock172 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 52
Nice pic!!!
Reply With Quote
  #1260  
Old 05-18-2010, 11:37 PM
c-rock172 c-rock172 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 52
I just picked up my Urei LE. Yes!! I am now one of you, BWA HA HA HA HA!!
Reply With Quote
  #1261  
Old 05-22-2010, 02:24 AM
RETRODISKO's Avatar
RETRODISKO RETRODISKO is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 919
Send a message via MSN to RETRODISKO

me with Some famous friendly guy in C.I.
__________________
Yaxkin Retrodisko
http://www.retrodisko.com
twitter retrodisko
Reply With Quote
  #1262  
Old 05-23-2010, 06:27 AM
Leeee Leeee is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 212
Moving picture!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPFihKzhMWQ

Reply With Quote
  #1263  
Old 05-23-2010, 07:08 AM
vinyl_junkie vinyl_junkie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South East Kent, UK
Posts: 1,828
Quote:
Originally Posted by RETRODISKO

me with Some famous friendly guy in C.I.

Why if it isn't Scott Fitlin heheh Now post some pics of the place man lol
__________________
--The future scares me, any chance of a lift back to the past any one?--
Reply With Quote
  #1264  
Old 05-23-2010, 10:41 AM
jnkarrik jnkarrik is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Posts: 566
http://www.wavemusic.com/community/a...4&d=1117466870
Reply With Quote
  #1265  
Old 05-23-2010, 07:15 PM
vinyl_junkie vinyl_junkie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South East Kent, UK
Posts: 1,828
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnkarrik

Looks great Does any one have pics of the booth though? Always wanted to see what it looked like
__________________
--The future scares me, any chance of a lift back to the past any one?--
Reply With Quote
  #1266  
Old 05-23-2010, 07:41 PM
dino59 dino59 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 296
Send a message via AIM to dino59
there is a few you tube videos around just google it
Reply With Quote
  #1267  
Old 05-24-2010, 12:59 PM
Lime Twig Lime Twig is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chicago -> Toronto
Posts: 381
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinyl_junkie
Looks great Does any one have pics of the booth though? Always wanted to see what it looked like
Ask a ye shall receive:
__________________
Good Faith
Reply With Quote
  #1268  
Old 05-24-2010, 01:55 PM
clubman5 clubman5 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 3,946
That is BEFORE I re-rubber banded the CD TT!
__________________
Mr. Scott Fitlin
Reply With Quote
  #1269  
Old 05-24-2010, 03:54 PM
vinyl_junkie vinyl_junkie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South East Kent, UK
Posts: 1,828
Quote:
Originally Posted by clubman5
That is BEFORE I re-rubber banded the CD TT!

Scott you weren't joking when you said about the dust from the cars you get there, nice booth though...would love some 1200's instead of those CDJ's though lol I know you are Mr Digital now though Makes total sense from a pro/business point of view though especially that you got it to sound on par with analogue as you say.
Yo' Thanks LimeTwig for posting the pic :-)
__________________
--The future scares me, any chance of a lift back to the past any one?--
Reply With Quote
  #1270  
Old 05-24-2010, 07:31 PM
Lime Twig Lime Twig is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chicago -> Toronto
Posts: 381
No problem, VJ, here's some more pics of the El Dorado.

I dropped by totally unannounced and even through it was closed and he was obviously busy, the ever-generous Mr. Fitlin took at least an hour and a half out of his day to show me around and school me on sound systems.

Thanks again, Scott!



One of the 4 corner stacks:



One of the 2 (I think?) centre stacks, big ol' rack of vintage Crown on the right.



One of the 4 Zanzibar J-scoops!



Dope old school light fixtures:

__________________
Good Faith
Reply With Quote
  #1271  
Old 05-24-2010, 07:56 PM
Lime Twig Lime Twig is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chicago -> Toronto
Posts: 381
And another piece of NY dance music history...

__________________
Good Faith
Reply With Quote
  #1272  
Old 05-24-2010, 09:17 PM
clubman5 clubman5 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 3,946
LimeT has it almost 100%!

The rack has almost all VINTAGE CROWNS! From the 15,s up, 3 crown PSA-2,s, horns a DC-300A, tweeters, 2 Crown D-150A, subs a Macro Tech 3600VZ, I Tech 4000, and a QSC PowerLight 6.0II.

I will be switching over to some Macro Tech i Series, this summer. For subwoofer duty, especially HEAVY DUTY HIGH POWER SUB DUTY, I LOVE the NEW Crowns. On one hand, they are a touch leaner sounding than traditional Class AB amplification, but todays digital music has so much bottom, especially sub bottom. And THE POWER AND CONTROL IS GREAT! Not to mention the programmability of the amps features. IT WORKS!

From the 15,s on up, bass, low mid, mids, upper mids, and HF, and VHF, traditional amplification is still working well for me. Warmth. And using the crown PSA-2 on 15,s add a WEIGHT to the low end that is unreal. Although, I have been trying newer style amps on the 15,s, and YES it is leaner sounding, however, the bass detail is superb. Notes are so defined, and vivid, but, you lose some of the weight. Of course, I am on the fence here, as newer amps playing todays music, makes my TAD 15,s sound like music USED to sound. I played around with a Crown CE-4000, then a K series, and the bas articulation. Man it can be SO SO CLEAR, not that it isn't now, but, even that much more, and definition was superb. The tradeoff is a little loss of LF weight.

HF horns and tweeters. Here I must have Class AB amplification. Up here, traditional amps are my flavor. I use older crowns BECAUSE they mate well to my same era JBL 2395/2441 and 2402 bullets and 2404 bi-radials. It becomes a matter of synergy, as well as personal preference here, as long as it IS Class AB. To me it is more what amps work best with your comp drivers and tweeters, and preference. I don't care if Bryston, McIntosh, or whatever you like or have floats your boat, HIGH QUALITY CLASS A OR AB up here works. Personally, I have found that speakers of an era seem to work best with amplification of that era, too. I am partial to Crown, though.

However, take my center stacks, with their quad direct radiating, ported JBL 2242 18in woofers, MODERN high power amplification works beautifully here. QSC, CROWN, POWERSOFT, whatever. Becomes users choice and taste. But the sweetness and warmth, and delicate detail from the HF horns up, do well for me with vintage CLASS AB, 15,s like a high power, BIG POWER SUPPLY design, CLASS AB, but subs,to me are owned by CLASS D. The POWER, the PROGRAMMABILITY, and the sound. Tight, taut, strong, and best of all, tune the amplifier to your room, acoustics, speakers, and taste. And it works. I can say with complete honesty, CROWN and QSC,s HIGH TECH MODERN OFFERINGS HAVE TONS OF POWER, AND HAVE BEEB COMPLETELY RELIABLE FOR ME! If there is anything I do not like about todays premium technologies, and amps, PRICE! THE BEST STUFF COSTS BIG BUCKS! But, for me, the programability of The I Tech and Macro Tech I Series works, very well. Of course, the weight and the fact that they do not produce tons of heat has become a plus. And the combination of sonic characteristics, PSA-2 driven horn loaded TAD 1603,s and modern Crown and QSC high powered Class D driven subs, with todays digital music, is a CHAMP. TIGHT SLAMMING SUBS, warm, weighty, deep but clean and articulate 15,s rule.

IT WORKS.
__________________
Mr. Scott Fitlin
Reply With Quote
  #1273  
Old 05-25-2010, 03:11 AM
Lime Twig Lime Twig is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chicago -> Toronto
Posts: 381
Scott,

What would you recommend for something cheaper than the new amps you're talking about? I'm building my horn-loaded 15" subs soon and I need to start thinking about amps.

Since our top end is all high-efficiency Klipsch I've never had to think about big amps, a single HH V800 (only 250wpc) powers the whole four channel tops with ease!

What sort of power will I need for the subs? Are there old Crowns that would be up to the task?

Quote:
Originally Posted by clubman5
LimeT has it almost 100%!

The rack has almost all VINTAGE CROWNS! From the 15,s up, 3 crown PSA-2,s, horns a DC-300A, tweeters, 2 Crown D-150A, subs a Macro Tech 3600VZ, I Tech 4000, and a QSC PowerLight 6.0II.

I will be switching ...
IT WORKS.
__________________
Good Faith

Last edited by Lime Twig : 05-25-2010 at 03:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #1274  
Old 05-25-2010, 05:01 AM
clubman5 clubman5 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 3,946
Look at Crowns NEW XLS series, and also vintage Macro Techs, too!
__________________
Mr. Scott Fitlin
Reply With Quote
  #1275  
Old 05-25-2010, 07:30 AM
DUNE493's Avatar
DUNE493 DUNE493 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 265
Quote:
Originally Posted by RETRODISKO

me with Some famous friendly guy in C.I.
See you this summer Scott.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.0.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
2006 Wave Music


© Wave Entertainment Group, Inc.