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Old 03-10-2013, 09:50 PM
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Has anyone heard both the E&S and GSA isolators?

Looking for opinions on their relative sounds. I own GSA but haven't had a chance to hear the E&S.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:53 PM
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And has anyone in the States/Canada bought an E&S? If so, how much did it cost you to get it here? Shipping, customs, etc.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:22 PM
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I've heard and used them all, over the years. They all sound similar enough that the different particular features, build construction, knob selection and pot feel distinguishes them more then the actual sound, with some standouts on the better and worse side. I would say it's more of a knob / feel difference between the two you mentioned. Both are fine units.

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Old 03-11-2013, 08:03 PM
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Thanks.

Got excited when GSA released a dual isolator but the E&S dual isolator is significantly cheaper. Trying to figure out customs charges now.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:37 AM
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I've heard and used them all, over the years. They all sound similar enough that the different particular features, build construction, knob selection and pot feel distinguishes them more then the actual sound, with some standouts on the better and worse side. I would say it's more of a knob / feel difference between the two you mentioned. Both are fine units.

What pots are the better ones using, Blue Velvets?
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:08 AM
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What pots are the better ones using, Blue Velvets?

The GSA uses Blue Velvets. I think many of the other high end ones do too.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:53 AM
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I owned the GSA. And presently use the E&S DJR400 (it has an isolator built in, just not sure if it sounds the same as the stand alone unit). I can say that both are very similar as far as the overall sound goes. The iso on the djr400 has a little more gain on it (+12) as opposed to +8% on the GSA, although i should say that the +8 seemed perfectly fine, plenty of gain. One big plus about the GSA is the pointer knobs! i cant stress enough how nice it is to "feel" where the knob is rather than having to look down to know if you've returned it to center. Other than the cost, i dont know why Jerome wouldn't put pointer knobs on his ISO (and mixer!).
If i was in the market for a 19" ISO, i'd pick the GSA over the E&S for that reason alone.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:31 PM
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Thanks for the review, r_dub. That's really helpful.

Once you factor in shipping from France to the US (140 euro) and 50 euro in customs (a rough estimate from some website), the price of the E&S comes to $1224. The GSA is $1400 plus $25 shipping.

GSA is in stock. E&S takes 3 weeks to be ready.
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:56 AM
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i am not sure the gsa uses blue velvet not at least the one i got .. i think it uses something more <<exotic>> (it sounds fantastic)
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:10 AM
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i am not sure the gsa uses blue velvet not at least the one i got .. i think it uses something more <<exotic>> (it sounds fantastic)

The interior photos I've seen show blue velvets, ves. Agreed that it sounds great but I don't think its sound has much to do with the pots!
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:17 PM
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One big plus about the GSA is the pointer knobs! i cant stress enough how nice it is to "feel" where the knob is rather than having to look down to know if you've returned it to center. Other than the cost, i dont know why Jerome wouldn't put pointer knobs on his ISO (and mixer!).
If i was in the market for a 19" ISO, i'd pick the GSA over the E&S for that reason alone.

If your preference is for a particular style of knob you could just ask them to ship without knobs and request to reduce the cost by $10, you can then buy whatever you want and put them on yourself, easy.

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Old 03-14-2013, 09:15 PM
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1400 for the GSA? wow the price really went up, they were under 1000 2 years ago
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:40 AM
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And I paid 450Euro for the E&S 6 years ago.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:53 AM
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I have had the e&s for about 6 years and ordered 3 Urei knobs from Harman so it matches my 1620LE. The Urei knobs feel so much better. I also am pretty sure that the pots are Blue Velvets. I do like that with the GSA you can choose RLA, or Urei knobs. Remember that Jerome was building them for GSA before Gary Stewart started making his own. The e&s is a very nice unit.

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Old 03-18-2013, 02:03 PM
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1400 for the GSA? wow the price really went up, they were under 1000 2 years ago
maybe the price quoted is for the dual stereo model?
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:09 PM
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I should clarify: the $1400 price is for the DUAL version.

The original GSA is still $895 as far as I know. A very affordable isolator, with only E&S being slightly cheaper. And when you consider shipping and customs, it's close to equal.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:56 AM
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The Isolators are in stock.
ISO 3001 SINGLE IS $895.00
ISO 3001 X2 DOUBLE $1395.00

With over 500 units world wide...............

Free shipping to customers in the USA for the month of April May

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Old 04-04-2013, 03:35 AM
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The interior photos I've seen show blue velvets, ves. Agreed that it sounds great but I don't think its sound has much to do with the pots!
yes you are correct i opened it up and it had blue velvets my bad
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