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Old 02-27-2008, 04:05 PM
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Yet, another Dj software.

I came across this and was actually thinking of using it as an alternative to Serato. Just wondering if it would be a good choice with a good sound card Thoughts would be much apreciated.

http://www.virtualdj.com/

Here's a clip of Dennis using at Deco lounge in jersey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf5ZBd-N7dI
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:13 PM
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look into DJdecks also as an alternative to Serato, etc...

i know many folks that are quite pleased with it...

you'll still need an interface, etc... but the program itself is quite inexpensive

and it still performs quite well from all i have seen...

very much customizable also, and purported to have excellent user support...
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:34 PM
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Hmm, never seen that one...
And , yet another
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:24 PM
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This is said to be a perfect sound card for this application

http://www.audiotrak.net/products/maya44usb/

sound card recommendations for this?
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:32 PM
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Look into: http://www.schaack-audio.com/quad.html

That is my new weapon of choice with a RME interface.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:11 PM
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I haven't used it but I think I read somewhere that Numark's Cue and DJDecks are actually built on software from Ms. Pinky's.

http://www.mspinky.com
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:30 PM
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I don't believe that Dennis uses Virtual DJ. From the video it appears to be Pioneer's DJS software. If you watch the video again, you can see two Pioneer CDJ1000s on the screen. The layout of VirtualDJ is a little different.

Just a side note, according to the site VirtualDJ is the exact same software as Numark's Cue.

In regards to Ms. Pinky, I also believe that it is the basis for M-Audio's Torq.

Is there any software that allows you to run 3 or 4 sources digitally? I know that Traktor offers 4 decks but only two can be controlled via time-coded vinyl or CD. The other two must be controlled internally or via a midi-controller.

It seems that the limiting factor is the hardware or interface that is used. Perhaps software programs that rely on third party sound cards would be better as you could have 3 deck time-coded control via 6in/6out soundcard.
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Old 02-27-2008, 07:13 PM
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In fact Dennis uses this software all the time, what your looking at is a cool skin that can be used, one of many in fact. Whats kind of funny is they also have a skin that makes it look like your using serato aswell! The one you see on the you tube vid is a Pioneer 1000 skin. Check their skins on the website. Pretty cool if you ask me
Check It
http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/skins.html

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Old 02-27-2008, 07:15 PM
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Is there any software that allows you to run 3 or 4 sources digitally?

Just check out the web site that CJH put up Traktor, ableton

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Old 02-27-2008, 07:31 PM
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I'm basicly looking for software that is rock solid, no crashes, yes Serato is said to fit the bill on this tip, but I've heard mixed reviews on there audio interface.
At the moment I have a Alesis Masterlink to record mix cd's and demo's and can not figure it out for the best of me Yea i'm a little stupid when it comes to certain things
What i'm also looking to do is just record right into my laptop and be able to put track markers between mixed songs, so basicly this works out for me if I get a nice easy to use quality sound card and just buy somthing like VDJ instead of going the serato route. Don't get me wrong, all that I've spoke to about serato, say they love it, I'm just trying to kill to birds with one stone.

Any advice as far as sound card? I've looked into the Maya 44. I've searched threads and info for sound cards, but im a little confused as in'm not going to use it for production just for recording mixed sets and and archiving record collection.

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Old 02-27-2008, 09:22 PM
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your best off with serato as i really think as kool as VDJ looks it's still inferior to serato. yes people say things about the audio interface but the reality is it is now almost industry standard. It doesnt sound that bad to me and let me tell you i have experience with VDJ and it's nothing like running serato. you will spend quite a bit of time getting the timecode to work with your card and you really do need a lot of processing power and memory to do the timecode crunching with the ext sound card.

The reason serato is so stable is that the interface does a chunk of the processing of the time code and therefore allows the computer to not have to work as hard.

as for recording i suggest getting a presonus firebox or one of the external recording devices to record the set because if you try to record with VDJ running timecode you will probably hang your computer on a regualr basis and run into stability problems. I used to have pretty stable recording with final scratch but it also crashed and glitched alot.

serato and an external recording device is the best option. sometimes killin to birds with one stone is less repeatable
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:26 PM
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industry standard does not make it good, necessarily....
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:23 PM
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I have been using Vir.dj for about 6 months now. I love it its great I am mixing music videos & having a ball with it. Hands down the best software you can get. I am using the dac 3 controller and also the denon hc 4500 with gigaport sound card.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:46 PM
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fair enough industry standard is not necasaraly the best but it has been the most stable software out there for it's purpose which is music controlled by timecoded records or cds.

Mario your right when used with the DAC-2 or 3 it's great. we use it at a local club for video mixing only i just find it to easy. I prefer to use turntables and we use them for music and VDJ for video.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:42 PM
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The Pioneer DJM 800 mixer is pretty standard too and it sucks.

I don't think that the sound quality of Serato is very good. I think Traktor Scratch sounds great and the included sound card is very flexibile, so it is hard to beat. All of my vinyl rips and mixes go through it. I have done vinyl VS Traktor Scratch tests with a fellow audiophile buddy and we were pleased with the results.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:14 AM
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Kenny Dope was using Serato at the Ministry in January, enuff said.....and we all know about Jazzy Jeff, plus it does seem to be industry standard now so a lot of places are setting up permanent interfaces for plug and play
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:31 AM
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VDJ is not a reliable program. Serato runs with hardly any problems ever. It's a shame because VDJ is a great easy to use program but i would not trust it in at a live gig....just look at the 2 forums and see difference in the amount of users with issues. Serato hardly has any issues.

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Old 03-01-2008, 07:14 AM
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Ok I got the program from a friend. So far it works well but i need a decent soundcard as i bought a GIGAPort AG USB(waiting for it in the mail) and dont think i'll be able to use it for time coded cd's (not sure) since I didnt notice that it only has out puts another dumb move I think.. Anyways I made a mistake and thought it was simular to a Maya 44. Those sound cards seem to be a little scarce online.
I wanted to use my Pio CDJ's to control VDJ. So at the moment I'm looking for somthing to experiment with this program. After messing with this set up I'll probaly wind up with Serato
As for industry standard, you know, this term gets throwm around alot. I like to think outside the box every once in a while. How many of you have you 1200's collecting dust or topped with cd's and other stuff, it's sad but true
Jazzy Jeff is a scratch dj, so its a its given. I only scratch when I itch
Kenny Dope using Serato @ MOS really, Hmmm. R u sure it was'nt VDJ with the Serato skin...LoL,,, Just messin with ya..
I appreiciate all the input, Thanks Guys..

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Old 03-21-2008, 01:32 PM
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duh, just refered to this thread, how stupid do I feel? Most crashes are do to user error and what type of sound card, drivers etc. Good info on this one-

http://www.wavemusic.com/community/s...esonus+firebox

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Old 07-16-2008, 05:29 PM
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After 3 months of using Serato it's now gone!
Boring interface wave forms awkward good for thoose who like to scratchety scratch Not For Me! I actually used the Serato software for less than a week..
I used VDJ with the SL1 For many Gigs without a glitch, very nice easy set up, worked well.

Next up Traktor Sratch W/ Traktor 3 and Audio 8 soundcard.
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:27 AM
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Quote:
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After 3 months of using Serato it's now gone!
Boring interface wave forms awkward good for thoose who like to scratchety scratch Not For Me! I actually used the Serato software for less than a week..
I used VDJ with the SL1 For many Gigs without a glitch, very nice easy set up, worked well.

Next up Traktor Sratch W/ Traktor 3 and Audio 8 soundcard.

As the guys on here know, I am an old Saint member and I love the old classics. I dont SCRATCH EVER but I did buy Serato and I use it like a classic DJ to mix my old classics. I love the BPM tracking on the screen and the ability to mix my digital music like a vinyl record. Not everyone uses Serato as a SCRATCH tool. Its a very sophisticated and kewl peice of software. You sell it far to short.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:56 PM
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I just bought a new laptop and DJ software to augment my mobile system.
After much research and investigating I decided to buy VirtualDJ.

I downloaded the Trial version and gave it a go. After 5 days of running
on my slow and old desktop PC, I decided to buy VIRTUALDJ. I was
sold on it's functions, features and stability.

Before I did, I spent days in the VDJ forums (now it's been weeks).
I did see a lot of the complaints mentioned here about the stability issues.
99% of those issues were user error and almost all were fixed in the end.
The complaints for the most part are coming from unregistered "Trial" version
users and "borrowed" copy users. Usually, they haven't read about PC, OS,
driver compatability and setup.

Every software has their issues. I was in the SSL forums and they got
problems over there, too. Don't be fooled. As a matter of fact, when I was
researching both sites' forums and realized they both had issues; I leaned
more towards VDJ because of the appealling nature of the GUI over SSL's
GUI! My rationale being: if they both got problems, I'm gonna go with the one
that looks the coolest to me!


VDJ works with Vista 32-bit, it's proven and documented in the forums.
SSL, on their website strongly recommend not using VISTA!
Think about that.

Two things that pushed VDJ far ahead of everybody else, for me was Cover
flow and the customizable skins.

Cover flow: Like your digging through crates, for records. You actually see
the sleeves. It's wild.

Custom Skin: If you don't like the way VDJ looks (I do), then you can change
it to match your turntables, CD players or Dedicated controller.

SSL is great, don't get me wrong. It does what it says and says what it
does. It may be the industry standard (that's debatable). But if it is? Does it
matter?

I think people should base their purchases on their own research and
preferences and not on what is the "industry standard" or what other people
say is "cool" or acceptable to the "in crowd". This is just my 2 cents.

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Old 08-28-2008, 11:28 PM
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I think people should base their purchases on their own research and
preferences and not on what is the "industry standard" or what other people
say is "cool" or acceptable to the "in crowd". This is just my 2 cents.


i think this exactly

my fave quote from someone in the industry was from dc the brain supreme(tag team) he said"it dont matter if you got two f#$ked up turntables and a radio shack mixer as long as you playig the right sh*t at the right time"

i see many ppl rocking all kinds of setups and havin a blast

there are three kinds of people in the world

those who make things happen
those who watch things happen
and those who wonder what happened

if you can afford the est the rock the best
if not then do it by any means nessisary

there are may ways to do this and exploring all of them is cool

look a kerri chandler he owns most every kind of source player out there

peas

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Old 08-28-2008, 11:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Bissnette
my fave quote from someone in the industry was
from dc the brain supreme(tag team) he said"it dont matter if you got two
f#$ked up turntables and a radio shack mixer as long as you playig the right
sh*t at the right time"

That's one of the coolest things I've read in a while....
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:36 PM
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it was in dj times magazine they were asking him what his faveorite club setup was
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