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Old 03-08-2011, 05:08 PM
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Ipad App for Controlling Serato

Thought this might be of interest to some Serato Users. Especially since there has been a price drop on the IPads.

http://midideck.com/media.html

I'm not affiliated with the site nor have I tried the product. Just passing along a link!

Bryce
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:19 PM
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wow, that's depressing
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:43 AM
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Why do you feel it's depressing?

I think it makes a lot of sense. You still have the ability to use control vinyl (or cd's) to mix in the traditional way if you want.

No matter how you look at it, if you want to use EFX, Cues, Loops, the bridge etc that are available in Serato you needed some type of external midi controller anyway.

With the price drop on the ipad (and use of the midi deck App) it's not much more money than a well laid out midi controller.

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Old 03-09-2011, 11:36 AM
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seems like it could be a decent lemur alternative....
same with some of the other touch sensitive devices...


http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:48 PM
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Curious as to how the virtual decks' pitch controls are controlled. Even if there were touch screen sliders I'd be very skeptical about the resolution/accuracy since there is no time code involved or physical sliders.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:08 PM
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I would think it's a combination of buttons mapped to bump or nudge up/down with an adjustable resolution setting...

kinda like if you were using Traktor X1s
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:18 PM
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Two fader adjusts for each deck when in internal mode... Coarse and fine plus you have nudge buttons as well. I have used other midi controllers with serato this way and it actually works pretty well. No turntable flutter so they tend to stay in sync very well.
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:15 PM
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Mind sharing what make/model MIDI controllers you've used for this with good results? I've tried controlling internal mode pitch on SL years ago with an Akai MPD16/24 that had physical mapable sliders, but found them to be nowhere near as accurate (or comfortable) as with TTs so I ditched the idea and never revisited.

Also, where are the "coarse/fine" resolution adjustments found?

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Old 03-09-2011, 03:50 PM
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i've use the Behringer DDM4000 which is a four channel mixer that is also midi mappable. All faders, sliders, buttons etc are midi mappable. I typically assigned one knob (or fader) to the coarse pitch and another knob to the fine. I found knobs to be much easier to deal with. I would then map the nudge buttons to two small buttons on the mixer.

I've also played around with using the Alesis Photon X25 (but that midi controller was garbage).

As for coarse/fine adjustment... i'm not aware of any in Serato. I think Mistick Krewe was referencing something in Traktor or the midi controller settings.

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Old 03-09-2011, 04:22 PM
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Thanks Bryce. Appreciate the info. Still confused by this though...

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I typically assigned one knob (or fader) to the coarse pitch and another knob to the fine.

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As for coarse/fine adjustment... i'm not aware of any in Serato.

Are you saying the mixer/MIDI controller you're using has separate coarse/fine controls? I'm an SL user too and not aware of these either. Hopefully Mistick can chime in.
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Old 03-09-2011, 04:38 PM
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no what I am saying is that when using serato in internal mode you can..

a. Adjust the range (+-8, +- 16, =- 32, etc) of the pitch
b. Through midi mapping use one fader or knob to act as a coarse adjustment for the pitch
c. Through Midi Mapping use a second knob or fader to act as a fine adjustment of the pitch.

so when I use it in internal mode I will adjust the pitch with the knob assigned to coarse to get it to same BPM as the other track (this gets you close) then I use the fine to adjust up or down from there slightly so they are perfectly matched. Add in some nudge as needed and it's pretty spot on. It's my understanding this is exactly how Serato itch works as well.

You can also do this with a mouse... Click on pitch with your mouse to move it up and down (that's coarse) then try holding Ctrl down on your keyboard and moving the pitch with your mouse. You will see it's in fine adjustment now.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:12 PM
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Ahhh, gotchya. Now I understand. Thanks.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:18 PM
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I was totally talking about midi mappings of the pitch resolution...
as described in post #11

sorry for the confusion...
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:46 PM
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The UI design is horrible!
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:48 PM
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Quote:
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Mind sharing what make/model MIDI controllers you've used for this with good results? I've tried controlling internal mode pitch on SL years ago with an Akai MPD16/24 that had physical mapable sliders, but found them to be nowhere near as accurate (or comfortable) as with TTs so I ditched the idea and never revisited.

Also, where are the "coarse/fine" resolution adjustments found?

This is what I did to control the "pitch shift" in the SP-6.

http://www.mrpuga.com/images/sp_6.jpg
http://www.mrpuga.com/images/m_audio.jpg
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