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Old 06-11-2010, 11:13 PM
Fred Bissnette Fred Bissnette is offline
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ron hardys music box

ive asked this before but does anyone here have any info about ron hardys music box specificly the speaker cabinets and amps

i know it was a three way design with fulls tweets and sub bass
and i know that he had a gli mixer and 1200s and a reel

i been watching lots of interveiws wit marshall jefferson and he keeps goin on about the bass in there and the volume

any one got any specs??

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Old 06-11-2010, 11:17 PM
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i guess i just wanna know power ratings and how much was acurately used

ive done shows with 30k of eaw kf series before but in like big warehouses in the 90s type thing not in a small space liek the music box

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Old 06-13-2010, 08:06 AM
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front or hornloaded makes a big difference regarding wattage.

would also be interesting to know if the box had dimensions which simply emphasized 60 hz
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:27 AM
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i think the top end was front loaded but i know there was some horn loaded bass

there was tslk of a big speaker towards the back of the club maybe this was a few levans stacked??

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Old 06-13-2010, 12:09 PM
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maybe this was a few levans stacked??

What???
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Old 06-13-2010, 05:24 PM
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yeah ive read in a few books and ina few articles about a big speaker you could crawl into and a levan is def big enough but it seems to me it was a taller cabinet so maybe something custom

theres an rla crossover in the booth pics too so i know it was a 3 way design

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Old 06-14-2010, 01:39 AM
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Could have been two Levan Horns stacked, OR an Emnerald and a Levan horn stacked.

When I was in Miami 1989-1996, when they re-opened the 1235 washington Av location known as DECOS, 1235, PARAGON, and THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS PRINCE, they originally had TWO MASSIVE stacks, firing out into the room, with an emertald on top a levan horn, two Puissance cabinets and two Double D horns, with mid horns and tweeters as well.

They also had two stacks with a single levan, single puissance, and one DD horn, with mid horn, and bi radial tweeters and even though these can produce high SPL, size wise, they were small in comparison to the stacks that were doubled up.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:38 AM
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could have also jsut been a bunch of cerwin vega earthquakes
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:00 AM
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Has anyone pics from the puissance?
What is it double 15" horn loaded?
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:48 AM
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Has anyone pics from the puissance?
What is it double 15" horn loaded?
Puissance was a double 15in horn loaded LF cabinet. This type of horn loading is also called a " bent horn ", or a C horn. It is a sealed rear chamber, front horn loaded cabinet that looks like a scoop except you can't see the woofer cones.

This cabinet produces an unbelievable and SOLID kick with good extension and VERY high output. Hard to beat!
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:43 AM
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Like the HD15?

Love the kick the HD15 can produce.
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:26 AM
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Like the HD15?

Love the kick the HD15 can produce.
YES, exactly!

If you have heard that HD15, you already know what I am talking about.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:42 AM
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Chest impact!
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:43 PM
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it wouldnt suprise me if it was abuch of earthquakes and they do pound but only if you have more than 10 of them any less and its just not deep enough to have real weight

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Old 06-16-2010, 07:22 AM
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it wouldnt suprise me if it was abuch of earthquakes and they do pound but only if you have more than 10 of them any less and its just not deep enough to have real weight

peas

I doubt even 20 of the earthquakes would go deep, the horn is simply too short. However, going deeper than 50hz wasnt really necessary for that music. it's not like many of those producers had subs in their studios.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:38 AM
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some of the muisic was proto house and it was all done live in studios i would say half of the music that was played isnt deeper than 50 60 hz but def some of it was full range

btw i picked up an earthquake a few weeks back for 40 bucks it def does the job but has limited response below 50 for sure
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:07 PM
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the music box was the old warehouse space so maybe the question is what did the warehouse have??

i doubt if the soundsystem was redone when the club changed hands

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the music box was the old warehouse space so maybe the question is what did the warehouse have??

i doubt if the soundsystem was redone when the club changed hands

peas

If that's the case, things might be quite a bit better than a bunch of Earthquakes. I don't know if I'm remembering it correctly, but I think Tim Lawrence talks about the birth of the Warehouse in Love Saves the Day (either that or it was in a film, like Maestro, sorry I can't be more specific). Anyway, what I remember was that Frankie Knuckles, being a Loft baby, wanted amazing sound and brought in someone from New York to do it. I don't have the book or film in front of me but look them up, I halfway remember it being Richard Long or Alex Rosner or someone like that who did the Warehouse.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:18 AM
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http://amzn.com/B00BL3X7QO

This book (though poorly written) has extremely detailed descriptions of much of the gear used back in the day in chicago, including a lot of ron's gear.
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