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Lime Twig 03-10-2013 09:50 PM

Has anyone heard both the E&S and GSA isolators?
 
Looking for opinions on their relative sounds. I own GSA but haven't had a chance to hear the E&S.

Lime Twig 03-10-2013 09:53 PM

And has anyone in the States/Canada bought an E&S? If so, how much did it cost you to get it here? Shipping, customs, etc.

atf104 03-11-2013 07:22 PM

I've heard and used them all, over the years. They all sound similar enough that the different particular features, build construction, knob selection and pot feel distinguishes them more then the actual sound, with some standouts on the better and worse side. I would say it's more of a knob / feel difference between the two you mentioned. Both are fine units.

Lime Twig 03-11-2013 08:03 PM

Thanks.

Got excited when GSA released a dual isolator but the E&S dual isolator is significantly cheaper. Trying to figure out customs charges now.

jnkarrik 03-12-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atf104
I've heard and used them all, over the years. They all sound similar enough that the different particular features, build construction, knob selection and pot feel distinguishes them more then the actual sound, with some standouts on the better and worse side. I would say it's more of a knob / feel difference between the two you mentioned. Both are fine units.


What pots are the better ones using, Blue Velvets?

Lime Twig 03-12-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnkarrik
What pots are the better ones using, Blue Velvets?


The GSA uses Blue Velvets. I think many of the other high end ones do too.

R_Dub 03-12-2013 11:53 AM

I owned the GSA. And presently use the E&S DJR400 (it has an isolator built in, just not sure if it sounds the same as the stand alone unit). I can say that both are very similar as far as the overall sound goes. The iso on the djr400 has a little more gain on it (+12) as opposed to +8% on the GSA, although i should say that the +8 seemed perfectly fine, plenty of gain. One big plus about the GSA is the pointer knobs! i cant stress enough how nice it is to "feel" where the knob is rather than having to look down to know if you've returned it to center. Other than the cost, i dont know why Jerome wouldn't put pointer knobs on his ISO (and mixer!).
If i was in the market for a 19" ISO, i'd pick the GSA over the E&S for that reason alone.

Lime Twig 03-12-2013 12:31 PM

Thanks for the review, r_dub. That's really helpful.

Once you factor in shipping from France to the US (140 euro) and 50 euro in customs (a rough estimate from some website), the price of the E&S comes to $1224. The GSA is $1400 plus $25 shipping.

GSA is in stock. E&S takes 3 weeks to be ready.

ves 03-14-2013 08:56 AM

i am not sure the gsa uses blue velvet not at least the one i got .. i think it uses something more <<exotic>> (it sounds fantastic)

Lime Twig 03-14-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ves
i am not sure the gsa uses blue velvet not at least the one i got .. i think it uses something more <<exotic>> (it sounds fantastic)


The interior photos I've seen show blue velvets, ves. Agreed that it sounds great but I don't think its sound has much to do with the pots!

Richi 03-14-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Dub
One big plus about the GSA is the pointer knobs! i cant stress enough how nice it is to "feel" where the knob is rather than having to look down to know if you've returned it to center. Other than the cost, i dont know why Jerome wouldn't put pointer knobs on his ISO (and mixer!).
If i was in the market for a 19" ISO, i'd pick the GSA over the E&S for that reason alone.


If your preference is for a particular style of knob you could just ask them to ship without knobs and request to reduce the cost by $10, you can then buy whatever you want and put them on yourself, easy.

R_Dub 03-14-2013 09:15 PM

1400 for the GSA? wow the price really went up, they were under 1000 2 years ago

Laurin 03-15-2013 03:40 AM

And I paid 450Euro for the E&S 6 years ago. :eek:

geoff 03-18-2013 10:53 AM

I have had the e&s for about 6 years and ordered 3 Urei knobs from Harman so it matches my 1620LE. The Urei knobs feel so much better. I also am pretty sure that the pots are Blue Velvets. I do like that with the GSA you can choose RLA, or Urei knobs. Remember that Jerome was building them for GSA before Gary Stewart started making his own. The e&s is a very nice unit.

Mistick Krewe 03-18-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Dub
1400 for the GSA? wow the price really went up, they were under 1000 2 years ago

maybe the price quoted is for the dual stereo model?

Lime Twig 03-22-2013 04:09 PM

I should clarify: the $1400 price is for the DUAL version.

The original GSA is still $895 as far as I know. A very affordable isolator, with only E&S being slightly cheaper. And when you consider shipping and customs, it's close to equal.

djmariog 03-23-2013 07:56 AM

The Isolators are in stock.
ISO 3001 SINGLE IS $895.00
ISO 3001 X2 DOUBLE $1395.00

With over 500 units world wide...............

Free shipping to customers in the USA for the month of April May

More can be seen on my Facebook account


Keep in mind they have internal power supply 115v/230v switch on rear, no external wall wart.

ves 04-04-2013 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lime Twig
The interior photos I've seen show blue velvets, ves. Agreed that it sounds great but I don't think its sound has much to do with the pots!

yes you are correct i opened it up and it had blue velvets my bad


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